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>> good afternoon, welcome to

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the committee on labor.

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We have a hearing this

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afternoon, today is March 10,

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2020 and it is 2: 50 P.M..

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We are in conference room 224.
We have a number of house bills

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will be hearing today.
We will begin with house bill

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1701 house draft one.
This is relating to equal pay.

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It can form statutory
prohibitions against race,
determination with other

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prohibitions on employment
discrimination.
First up the hawaii civil

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rights commission.
>> we stand on our written

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testimony in support.
>> thank you, hawaii state

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commission on the status of
women.

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Common cause, written
testimony.

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Island plastic bags.

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We have testimony in
opposition.

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Kelly rose.

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[Name] For hawaii initiative in
support.

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Jared pascal, we have his

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testimony in support.

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Jean evans.
>> good afternoon, my name is

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jean evans and you have my
testimony.
I want to make a couple of
points.

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I worked for years in hawaii
and nonprofits and most of

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those in executive positions.

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I applied for executive

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positions several times and no
salary range which ever posted.
I asked about them and they

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said it's flexible and that's

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all the information that I got.

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After I did get an executive
position I found out a few
months later that my

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predecessor had made twice as
much as I did.
That was really demoralizing

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and got me looking for another
job.
When I was hiring people, which

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I have hired hundreds I wasted
time interviewing people whose
salary requirements were much

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higher than ours.
We did not post salaries
because it was not done then.

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If we had, we could have saved
some time.

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It really does help people to
feel comfortable about their
employment.

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It is easy to find out-
although I didn't have it
posted I knew what I would be
paid.

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I have a budget and I can go 10
percent above or 10 percent

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below and get a nice salary
range.

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Transparency is really
important and I support this
bill.
Thank you.
>> thank you.

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Mike.

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[Name] Lgbt q caucus democratic

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party in support.

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Pride work hawaii in support.

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Hawaii pacific health with

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comments.

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[Name] In support.

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Hawaii credit union with
comments.

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Hawaii women's coalition.
>> I am are presenting hawaii

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women's coalition.
My name is.

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[Name] And I am representing
both a uw hawaii as well as

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hawaii women's coalition today.
You have a written testimony

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with the information on why
transparency is good for

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business as well as a tool to
attract.
I want to share with you my

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personal experience with this
information.

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As you heard before, I worked

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at ibm for 30 years.
Many of those years were in
management and in 1980s when I

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studied at ibm.
Ibm was really attractive

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company for people to joine

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do not have to worry about
retaining employees are

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tracking employees.
Starting in the 1990s the

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company called microsoft became
a big competitor.

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Not just in market but to.
[Can't understand] We ended up

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using salary range as a tool
for us.

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We found that being able to
share what the ranges in the
market and where they are in

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the market actually increased
employee morale and there was
some trust that was built.

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It ended up becoming.
[Can't understand] From
personal experience as well as

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research I shared with you I
strongly support this bill.
Thank you.

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>> thank you.

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Cheryl b.

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Hawaii food industry
association.
Comments.

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Planned parenthood in support.

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Janet morse in support.

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Justin salisberry in support.

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Chamber of commerce of hawaii.

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Hawaii appleseed center, in

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support.Ueens health center

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with comments.
Society for human resource

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management hawaii.
>>.

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[Voice low]

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>> maui chamber of commerce.In
opposition.
Building association of white

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with comments.

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State department of human

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services in support.
Why department of labor and

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industrial relations.
>> we stand on our written
testimony.

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Ask thank you.

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United public workers in
upport.
Brady with community alliance

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on prisons in support.
Would anyone else like to
testify on the bill?

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If not I think we will proceed.
We have some members that I

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think are watching on the
television.
Hopefully.

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We will proceed to the next
bill.
House bill 2148 house draft one

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this is related to family leave

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and extends way family leave to
include care for employees
grandchildren.

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It also defines siblings.

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Department of human services in
support.

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Dla

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?
>> we stand in support.
We are available for questions.

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>> pbw in support.
Cheryl lee in support.

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Why food industry-
>>.
[Voice low] > I thought you

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were back there.
Community alliance of prisons

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in support.

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Why government employee
association.
>> we stand on a written

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testimony in support.

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>> chamber of commerce of

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hawaii?
>> we stand on a written
testimony and offer comments.
>> bill core risotto in

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support.
[Name] In support.

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Maui chamber of commerce in
opposition.

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Anyone else testifying on this
bill?

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If not, we will proceed-
sorry.

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I forgot to call queens health
center, health systems.

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They have comments also.
We will proceed house built

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2054 house draft one.
This is relating to employment
practices.

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This prohibits an employer from
requiring employee to enter

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into a nondisclosure agreement
pertaining to sexual harassment
or sexual assault.

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It prohibits an employer from
retaliating against employee
for disclosing or discussing

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sexual harassment or sexual
assaults.

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Way civil rights commission?
>> we stand on a written
testimony in support and are

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available for questions.
>> thank you.

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Hawaii state department of
human services in support.

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Hawaii state commission and
status of women in support.

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Jean evans in support.
Lgbt caucus of the democratic

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party in support.

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Pride work hawaii also in
support.

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[Name] In support.

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Hawaii women's coalition and
american association of the

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university of women in support.
>> we stand on a written

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testimony of support.

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>> thank you.
Cheryl be also in support.

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hawaii women lawyers in

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support.
Planned parenthood in support.

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Janet morris, jennifer's

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daughter, lisa martin, marcio

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palmer elmore.

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Thank you.
Joel moss in support.

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Queens health systems with
comments.
Anyone else that would like to

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testify on this bill, house
bill 2054?

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If not, we will proceed to

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house bill 1782 house draft
one.

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This is relating to employment
determination.
It limits convictions that May

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be used in employment decision
from all convictions in the

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most recent 10 years to felony
convictions that occurred in

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certain a time period and
misdemeanor convictions that

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occurred at a certain time
period.

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Office of hawaiian affairs?

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>> aloha share my name is
jocelyn.

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[Name] In a public policy
officer and I want to
acknowledge we have two of our

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trustees here with us today.
Mahalo for hearing this bill in

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moving the senate version.
We super appreciate it.
We are in strong support of the

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original version which is one
of the versions that your
committee moves out in the

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senate version.
We request that you restore the

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period's to 3-5 years Miss
Manners and felonies.
We are asking legislature to

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take a bold but really
reasonable step today to get

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people who paid their debt to
society a slightly better
chance to obtaining a

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legitimate employment.

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The example I keep using is a
young person steals a bike,
pays their debt to society and

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tries to get a jobe want to
make it difficult for them to
get a job for 10 years?

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I say slightly improved because
the current law and instant

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bill does not prevent employers

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from looking at past criminal
records.

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I can go online and look at
everybody's parking tickets
they have ever received in this

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room.
It is supposed to determine how

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and what information private
employers can actually use when
making hiring decisions.

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By reducing these older
convictions the bill would
discourage biases that it could

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affect employment and increase
chances of an individual trying

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to obtain employment to support
themselves and their families

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nd decrease the likelihood
of.
[Can't understand] That protect

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the community because it shows
that those that have jobs after

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being incarcerated are much
less likely to reinforce act.

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Giving people an increased

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chance to obtain employment
encourages more law-abiding

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behavior and decreases the

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likelihood of them in fracking.

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Finally, I would like to know
because I'm looking to the

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testimony and I wanted to
reiterate this bill does not
affect state and county

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employment processes.
We did that purposefully.
We know they have processes

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that provide some level of due
process.
it does not affect any of the
other exclusions already in the

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law as well.
The seven year standard that is

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being used by the state
department, I think they are

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talking about private consumer
reporting agencies which are

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regulated by the federal
governmentur current state

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law further regulates what
employers can actually use.

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While federal law would allow a
credit reporting agency to

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provide seven years of arrest
records and unlimited

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conviction records, our state
law prohibits private employers
from using arrest records at
all.

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Of course, now there's a 10

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year period for that conviction
which we are trying to reduce.

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Want to make sure I could have
any type of confusion around
that.
Mahalo.

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>> thank you.

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Civil rights commission?
>> we stand a written testimony

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in support and encourage you to
return the bill to its original
form.
Thank you.

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>> thank you.
Hawaii state commission on

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status of women in support.
State of hawaii department of

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human resource development in
support.
Office of the prosecuting

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attorney in support.

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Common cause in support.

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Andrea quinn in support.
[Name] Walker hawaii friends of

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restorative justice, lgbt q

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caucus of the democratic party,

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pride work hawaii.

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Steve costa, cheryl b alayna.

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[Name] Jen jenkins, jackie.

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[Name], robert merce, these
people are all in support.

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The alliance of prisons
provides some comments.

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Carla allison in support.
I should note the community

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alliance on prisons wanted to

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amend it back to the senate

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version.
Mary.

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[Name], heather Mcveigh,

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kathryn burke, jason lee,
security industry and financial

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markets association provided
some comments.

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Donna santos in support.

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Sarah strong.

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We have a number of other

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people, individuals.

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Chamber of commerce of hawaii.

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Carlos day lotto, gabriel.

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[Name], joy alvarado, [Name],
support.

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Peaches.

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[Name], [Name] Mauna kea, nico.
[Name] Manager hawaii health

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and harm reduction center.

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Benton.

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[Name] Jerry and.
[Name].

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Diane bethel, [Name], society

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for human resource management
hawaii.
>> we stand on a written
testimony.

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>> anyone else only to testify

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on the bill?

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If not, questions were members?
Will proceed to the next bill

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senate bill 2273 house draft

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one this is related to wages.
This increases the penalty for

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violation of wages and loss to

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a class c felony.
Department of labor and

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industrial relations?
>> department stands on its

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written testimony.

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>> karen.
[Name]?
in support.

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You pw in support.
Democratic party of hawaii

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labor caucus in support.

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Hawaii food industry

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association?

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>> I'm with the way food
industry association, we want

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to clarify we are in opposition
to wage theft obviously but we
are a little afraid the way it

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is drafted essentially could be
a small mom-and-pop business

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that can miscalculate overtime
or something and that would be

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a class c felony.
That is the part we are in
opposition to.
Thank you so much.

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>> thank you.

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Chamber of commerce?
>> we stand in a written
testimony.

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>> thank you.
>> anybody else testifying on
this bill?
Questions were members?

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If not, just a quick question

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for the department.

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We have the next bill coming up

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on fines and things.

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I was wondering how the two

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bills mesh?
>> we have the fines and
penalty bill coming up.

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They coincide with each other.
It won't really have a major

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effect on the fines and
penalties will accept some of

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the amounts will have to be
looked at.

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>> okay.
I guess the concern for the

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food industry association and

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it May be someone's mistakes

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but this is knowingly right?
And these kinds of cases you

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have to establish a pattern
generally?
>> historically I don't know if

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we have done that, I would have
to look into that if it is done

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historically or they have to
have a pattern in order to be

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penalized.

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>> okay, thank you.

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We'll proceed to the next bill
house bill 2350 house draft two

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relating to the department of
labor and industrial relations
which updates various

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assessments and penalties under

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dlar's restriction by

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monetizing.
[Can't understand] On their set
amounts.

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We have department of labor and

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industrial relations.

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>> we stand on our written
testimony and if you have any

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questions we are available.

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>> you

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upw in support.
>> we stand on a written
testimony.

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>> hawaii regional council of

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carpenters in support.

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Anyone else testifying on this
bill?

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If not, questions from members?

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We will proceed to house bill

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2314 house draft one, this is
relating to employees

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retirement system disability
retirement.
This clarifies the employees

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retirement system sigil ability
requirement definitions for
service-connected disability

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and accidental death benefits.

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The department of budget and

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finance?
Ers?

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Mr. Williams?

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>> good afternoon chair and are

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presented as of the committee.

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I appreciate the opportunity to
testify and strong support for

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hospital 2314.

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We view this bill as extremely
vital to the fiscal

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sustainability of the ers over
time.

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If we failed to implement the

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clarifications that are
included in this bill we think

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it will result ultimately in an
increased and required

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contributions to the plan as
well as to the plans unfunded
liability which now stands at

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about $14 billion.
When contribution rates are
established we look at a whole

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variety of factors and the rate
with which the courts are now

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allowing access to the

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service-connected disability
benefits was not contemplated

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when we establish the rates.

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The eligibility or granting of
those benefits exceeds the
plain reading of the law.

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There are a number of other

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benefits that are available to

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our members, workers
compensation benefits when

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people are injured on the job
and the presumption is in favor
of the worker.

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The disability benefits
-there's ordinary retirement
benefits and ordinary

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disability retirement benefits
that require a certain age and

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service requirement for
eligibility.

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These benefits are unique and
special to the extent that they

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were in place for individuals
who experience specific work
hazards.

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For example, people who might
experience exposure to noxious

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gases that would cause lung
injuries for firemen for

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example.

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Where they would be exposed to

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cancer-causing fire retardants.
Four police officers who might

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be exposed to physical injury

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etc. The hazards anticipated
and contemplated here were

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unique to a specific job.
The courts have now broadened

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the definition to suggest that
virtually any job can have a

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work hazard.

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One of the more recent cases,

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the use of a mechanical can
opener as opposed to an

00:25:55.654 --> 00:25:57.654
electric can opener was viewed

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as a job hazard resulting in

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stress injury enabling a member
to be entitled to

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service-connected disability
benefits.

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Similarly for an accident in
the definition requires that

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the accident occurred a

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specific time and place, the
courts have liberally

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interpreted that such that an

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accident can be a progression.
It can be a deterioration of

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the condition occurring over a
number of months, weeks even

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years resulting in some final
incident that they characterize
as the accident.

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The availability of these
benefits are greater than the

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benefits that are typically
recorded for members of
disability retirement.

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They have no age limit.
You can be eligible for these

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at age 25, 30 or at any age you
have any service requirements.

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You are entitled to these
benefits after two weeks of

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service, three years of
service.
After five or 10 years of
service.

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The level of benefits is such
that there are minimally one

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third of the pay even at the

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early age and can go higher.
There is no taxes on these and

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we return the member's
contributions.
It creates a significant fiscal

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hole for the irs to pay these
benefits.
What we are trying to do is not

00:27:27.248 --> 00:27:28.915
to preclude or deny anyone
benefits, but to restore the

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legislative intent as to what
constitutes an accident and

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what constitutes a job hazard.

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This language is intended to
eliminate any ambiguities in

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that regard.

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I would be pleased to answer

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any questions.
>> with anyone else like to

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testify on the bill?

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If not, questions from members?
If not, we passed the senate

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bill and an agreement some
amendments.

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Can you give us your assessment
of the differences of the bills

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and which one you prefer?
>> I don't have a strong
recollection of the specific

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amendments that were included
in the senate.

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I believe this house bill is
specifically drafted by
attorney generals and we think

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it addresses a whole host of

00:28:26.607 --> 00:28:28.374
issues as to these definitions
and accidents occurring as a

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single traumatic event.

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Because we are attempting to
address the stream of more
liberal interpretations present

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in the series of court cases I
think that the current bill

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more thoroughly does that.

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>> thank you.

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For the questions?

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>> will proceed to hospital
1700 house draft one.
This is relating to the hawaii

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employer union health benefits

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trust fund.
This specifies each etf trustee

00:29:14.389 --> 00:29:16.223
an addition to the eu tf board
shall administer health and

00:29:16.725 --> 00:29:18.725
other benefit plans for the

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sole and exclusive eu tf
beneficiaries.

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Department of budget and
finance?
>> we stand in written

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testimony and opposition.
>> thank you.
University of hawaii

00:29:37.445 --> 00:29:39.279
professional assembly?
>> good afternoon chair and

00:29:41.849 --> 00:29:44.685
members of the committee.
First of all would like to
thank you for hearing this

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measure is a companion bill the

00:29:47.189 --> 00:29:49.523
senate bill 3012 which was
passed on a committee earlier
this session.

00:29:50.725 --> 00:29:52.725
I appreciate the opportunity to

00:30:00.969 --> 00:30:03.405
testify in strong support of
house bill 1700 hd one.
You have a written testimony I

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just want to specify the intent
of the measure is to align the
administration of the fund

00:30:07.910 --> 00:30:10.511
section 80 7a 15 with the
language in both the
establishment of the fund which

00:30:11.446 --> 00:30:13.446
is an 80 7a 31 and the purpose

00:30:19.321 --> 00:30:21.289
of the fund which is an 87 a
30.
I am available for any

00:30:24.860 --> 00:30:26.860
questions if there are any.

00:30:29.297 --> 00:30:30.998
>> say that again?
>> 80 7a 30 is the

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establishment of the fund and
the purpose of the fund is 80

00:30:40.420 --> 00:30:41.976
7a 31.
The language that we are asking

00:30:42.511 --> 00:30:43.912
is simply to align all three
sections.

00:30:44.980 --> 00:30:46.980
>> okay.

00:30:52.454 --> 00:30:54.923
Thank you.
>> hga?
>> we stand in a written

00:30:55.925 --> 00:30:58.260
testimony.
>> anyone else testifying on

00:30:58.894 --> 00:31:00.894
this bill?

00:31:00.996 --> 00:31:02.996
if not, questions from members?

00:31:06.135 --> 00:31:08.135
Will proceed to hospital 2753

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house draft one relating to
workforce development.
This establishes the state

00:31:18.547 --> 00:31:20.448
youth build program to assist
nonprofit and public entities

00:31:20.583 --> 00:31:22.583
and applying and qualifying for

00:31:32.428 --> 00:31:34.170
federal youth build program
grants.
Dlir?

00:31:37.666 --> 00:31:39.340
>> we stand in support of the
bill.

00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:42.604
>> lgbt caucus is in support.
[Name] Is in support.

00:31:46.576 --> 00:31:48.576
Hs ta in support.

00:31:49.120 --> 00:31:51.120
Jeff.

00:31:52.648 --> 00:31:54.649
[Name] In support.
Anyone else that would like to

00:32:01.490 --> 00:32:03.490
testify on the bill?

00:32:04.628 --> 00:32:06.562
Any questions from members?
If not we will proceed to the

00:32:10.900 --> 00:32:12.900
next bill house bill 1799 house

00:32:15.972 --> 00:32:17.973
draft one who relating to
contractors which requires a

00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:20.400
specialty contract to obtain

00:32:29.619 --> 00:32:31.921
ac-48 specialty license or
sublicense if the performance
of a work on a contract

00:32:31.921 --> 00:32:33.689
requires ac-48 specialty
license or sublicense in the

00:32:34.190 --> 00:32:36.926
specialty contractor does not
have that specialty license or
sublicense.

00:32:36.926 --> 00:32:38.926
City and county of honolulu?

00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:45.200
They are in opposition.

00:32:56.880 --> 00:32:58.915
The dcca?
>> my name is neil.
[Name] Of the legislative

00:32:58.916 --> 00:33:00.916
committee Chairman For the

00:33:01.652 --> 00:33:04.530
contractor license board.
I just wanted to highlight a
few things.

00:33:07.590 --> 00:33:09.525
The board believes there are
too many variables that exist

00:33:10.593 --> 00:33:12.161
in construction work including
but not limited to new

00:33:14.970 --> 00:33:17.330
construction work to carve out
a specialty classification that

00:33:19.469 --> 00:33:21.469
cannot be performed as

00:33:22.139 --> 00:33:24.139
incidental and supplemental.

00:33:24.441 --> 00:33:26.441
Although this one is referring

00:33:28.780 --> 00:33:30.780
to structural work there is

00:33:30.915 --> 00:33:33.250
lots of work that could be
considered incidental and
supplemental.

00:33:36.186 --> 00:33:38.186
To carve out just this is

00:33:41.592 --> 00:33:43.693
really not necessary in our
opinion.
The board respectfully submits

00:33:46.730 --> 00:33:48.597
its final order upon issuing
October 18, 2013 should remain

00:33:53.204 --> 00:33:55.342
the current standard in the
construction industry for
incidental and supplemental

00:33:55.342 --> 00:33:57.707
work.
Since October 2013 the board

00:33:59.576 --> 00:34:01.576
has consistently applied the

00:34:01.745 --> 00:34:03.745
standard to numerous scopes of

00:34:04.681 --> 00:34:06.681
work inquiries.

00:34:10.288 --> 00:34:12.288
The board currently implements

00:34:16.226 --> 00:34:18.199
a comprehensive and fair
protection of the public
safety.

00:34:18.262 --> 00:34:20.960
We are in opposition and
respectfully ask that you do

00:34:20.431 --> 00:34:22.431
for the bill.

00:34:31.575 --> 00:34:33.109
>> karen.
[Name] In support.

00:34:39.249 --> 00:34:41.249
Pacific resource partnership?

00:35:00.596 --> 00:35:03.266
>> we stand on a written
testimony.
>> would anyone else like to
testify on the bill?
If not, questions from members?
Quick question.
We had this bill last year and
I think even the year before.

00:35:04.109 --> 00:35:05.344
We are trying to deal with the
issue.

00:35:09.980 --> 00:35:12.716
We did have a senate attorney
look at it and try to see if we
could get some better language.

00:35:14.218 --> 00:35:16.218
We incorporated that into

00:35:16.288 --> 00:35:18.288
senate bill 2483.

00:35:19.491 --> 00:35:21.491
My intent today is to get the

00:35:23.795 --> 00:35:25.996
language there in a more
effective date on the bill and

00:35:27.765 --> 00:35:29.765
have a discussion-and I think

00:35:30.835 --> 00:35:32.835
he looked at 2483.

00:35:33.705 --> 00:35:35.705
we will do that today.

00:35:35.841 --> 00:35:37.841
There is still opportunity to

00:35:41.579 --> 00:35:43.780
look at it and see if that is
better.
>> is there a specific concern

00:35:46.651 --> 00:35:48.652
because of structural or just
incidental?
>> I think incidental

00:35:49.587 --> 00:35:50.836
supplemental was more the
issue.

00:35:52.257 --> 00:35:53.624
Need to tighten up the
language.

00:35:56.762 --> 00:35:58.762
Take a look at it and-

00:36:04.702 --> 00:36:06.702
>> okay, thank you.

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>> we will recess the public

00:41:35.503 --> 00:41:38.438
hearing.
>> welcome back this is

00:41:42.711 --> 00:41:44.946
decision-making for our
committee on labor, culture and
the arts.

00:41:44.946 --> 00:41:46.946
We had a number of hospitals we

00:41:47.682 --> 00:41:49.682
heard today.

00:41:50.180 --> 00:41:52.180
Will do decision-making on all

00:41:55.222 --> 00:41:58.158
of them.
We will begin with house built
1701 house draft one this is

00:42:02.731 --> 00:42:04.731
relating to equal pay.

00:42:05.534 --> 00:42:06.834
She will recommend we pass with
amendments.

00:42:13.708 --> 00:42:15.609
There are a number of technical
amendments and I won't read

00:42:19.648 --> 00:42:21.749
them all off that we would
make.
I guess you will currently keep

00:42:23.485 --> 00:42:25.185
the defective date.
I think there are some

00:42:28.422 --> 00:42:30.422
differences between the house

00:42:32.594 --> 00:42:35.463
and senate version.
As per testimony by jared
pascal we will mention in a

00:42:39.670 --> 00:42:41.736
committee report that dlir
might want to look into
providing training for women to

00:42:44.439 --> 00:42:46.607
negotiate salaries.
That will be in the committee

00:42:46.741 --> 00:42:48.442
report.
Any discussion?

00:42:55.170 --> 00:42:56.884
If not senator?
>> were voting on said chairs

00:42:57.520 --> 00:42:59.520
recognition apprentice senate

00:43:02.491 --> 00:43:04.258
bill 1701.
[Voting] Recognition is

00:43:05.260 --> 00:43:07.260
adopted.

00:43:09.632 --> 00:43:11.533
>> thank you members house bill
2148 house draft one relating

00:43:11.767 --> 00:43:13.767
to family leave.

00:43:16.380 --> 00:43:17.338
Joe recommend we pass with
amendments.

00:43:26.182 --> 00:43:28.182
The bill currently amends the

00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:31.786
definition of child to include
grandchildren.
We are just going to add

00:43:34.590 --> 00:43:36.691
grandchildren to the list of
people that it will cover.

00:43:41.290 --> 00:43:43.290
We will keep the current

00:43:46.636 --> 00:43:48.636
definition of sibling and will

00:43:57.680 --> 00:43:59.460
make this effective July 1,
2020.

00:44:00.717 --> 00:44:02.717
Any technical non-substantive

00:44:08.691 --> 00:44:11.326
amendments, any discussion?
If not senator?
>> for the late labor committee

00:44:11.661 --> 00:44:13.561
members that are present we are
voting on recognition to adopt

00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:25.607
with amendments house bill
2148.
Any objections or reservations?

00:44:26.242 --> 00:44:28.244
The recommendation is adopted.
>> thank you members, house
bill 2054 house draft one

00:44:28.244 --> 00:44:29.911
relating to employment
practices.

00:44:34.817 --> 00:44:36.217
Joe recommend that we pass with
amendments.

00:44:41.791 --> 00:44:44.260
We will make this effective
date upon approval.
Will make any technical

00:44:44.260 --> 00:44:46.260
nonsubstantive amendments and

00:44:51.234 --> 00:44:53.234
also include the queens health

00:44:55.138 --> 00:44:57.139
systems request for an
amendment regarding peer review

00:44:57.774 --> 00:44:59.774
to exempt peer review.

00:45:05.882 --> 00:45:08.717
Any discussion?
>> any reservations or
objections to the chairs

00:45:10.821 --> 00:45:13.189
recommendation for house bill
2054?
Hearing on regulation is
adopted.

00:45:15.825 --> 00:45:17.825
>> thank you members.

00:45:22.265 --> 00:45:24.265
house bill 1782 house draft one

00:45:26.613 --> 00:45:27.854
relating to employment
determination.

00:45:31.842 --> 00:45:34.110
She will recommend we pass with
amendments.
As per our senate bill 2193 we

00:45:35.412 --> 00:45:37.179
will amend or five year and
then three year look back.

00:45:40.817 --> 00:45:42.817
We will add brokers and dealers

00:45:42.886 --> 00:45:44.886
and investment advisors defined

00:45:46.690 --> 00:45:49.359
by hrs to seven e-2.5 d to
list exempt professions as

00:45:51.628 --> 00:45:53.628
requested by the.

00:45:54.965 --> 00:45:57.733
[Name] In their testimony.
We'll keep the effective date

00:45:59.402 --> 00:46:01.237
and make any technical
nonsubstantive amendments.

00:46:04.875 --> 00:46:06.909
Any discussion?
>> any reservations or

00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:11.480
objections to the chairs

00:46:13.650 --> 00:46:15.650
regulation on house bill 1782?

00:46:17.354 --> 00:46:19.354
Hearing on the amendment is

00:46:23.194 --> 00:46:25.695
adopted.
>> house bill 2273 relating to
wages the chair had some

00:46:26.697 --> 00:46:27.933
concerns about the severity of
this.

00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:32.535
She will recommend we pass with
amendments.
Will add knowingly to make

00:46:32.903 --> 00:46:34.903
clear that these must be

00:46:36.406 --> 00:46:38.406
intentional acts.

00:46:43.347 --> 00:46:45.181
We will also make technical
amendments.

00:46:46.183 --> 00:46:48.418
Currently it has a defective
date and will keep that
effective date.

00:46:53.991 --> 00:46:55.525
Any discussion?
If not, senator?

00:46:56.794 --> 00:46:58.794
>> were voting on regulation to

00:46:58.796 --> 00:47:00.796
adopt the chairs recognition to

00:47:03.768 --> 00:47:06.202
amend house bill 2273.
Any objections or observations?

00:47:06.203 --> 00:47:07.438
Hearing on the recognition is
adopted.

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>> thank you members, house
bill 2350 house draft two
relating to the department of

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labor and industrial relations.
These are the assessments and
penalties.

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The chair recommends we change

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it to an effective date upon

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approval and make any technical
nonsubstantive amendments.

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Any discussion?
Senator?
>> any reservations or
objections to the chairs

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recognition to adopt house bill
2350 with amendments?

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Recommendation is adopted.

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>> thank you, just a minute.
With regard to house bill 2314

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house draft one chairs will
recommend that we defer until
tuesday at 2:40 5:00 P.M.. In

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this conference
we'll proceed to house bill

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1700 house draft one.

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Joe recommend we passed with
amendments.
Will make it effective upon

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approval and make any technical
nonsubstantive amendments.

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Any discussion?
If not senator?
>> any reservations or

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objections to the chairs
recommendation to adopt house

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bill 1700 with amendments?
Hearing on the recognition is
adopted.

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>> thank you members.
We'll proceed to house bill

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2753 house draft one relating

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to workforce development.
Pleasure recommends we passed
this as is.

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Currently it has a blank
appropriation amount.
Any discussion?

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>> commission is to adopt house
bill 2753 unamended.

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Any objections or recognition

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is adopted.

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>> house bill 1799 relating to
contractors.

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I will amend this to include

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the contents of senate bill
2483.

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I will mention to the committee
board that we can have more

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discussion on this.

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We will also keep the defective

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date and make any technical
nonsubstantive amendments that
May be necessary.

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Any discussion?
Senator?
>> last bill on the agenda we

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are voting on the chairs
recognition to adopt house bill

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17 99 with amendments.
Any objections or reservations?

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The recommendation is adopted.
>> thank you very much members